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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," A LOOK AT HOW THE WAR IN IRAN AND INFLATION CONCERNS ARE IMPACT THE SUPPLY CHAIN?

>>> ALSO TONIGHT, WE'LL HEAR ABOUT AN EFFORT TO CHANGE THE STATE'S WORKFORCE ECOSYSTEM.

>>> AND WHAT QUALITIES SHOULD YOU LOOK FOR IN A PET?

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE LATEST MEASURE OF SUPPLY CHAINMETRICS SHOWS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN INVENTORY LEVELS AND COSTS ALONG WITH WAREHOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION PRICES BUT WHAT DO THE NUMBERS SAY ABOUT THE OVERALL ECONOMY.

FOR THAT, WE WELCOME ECONOMIST DALE ROGERS FROM W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS, OUR SUPPLY CHAIN GURU.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> NICE TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN.

>> THE LOGISTICS MANAGERS INDEX, WHAT IS THIS?

>> A RATE OF CHANGE AND WE HAVE A SCALE OF 0 TO 100, AND WE LET THE PEOPLE TELLING US ABOUT IT PICK DECLINING, STAY ON THE SAME, INCREASING.

IF IT STAYS ON THE SAME, IT'S 50, IT'S INCREASING 100 AND DECLINING 0, AND AVERAGE ALL THOSE TOGETHER BECAUSE THE IDEA IS BEFORE SOMETHING GOES INTO GDP, IT FIRST GOES ON A TRUCK, ON A TRAIN, A PLANE AND A WAREHOUSE, IF YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING UPSTREAM, YOU CAN TELL THE FUTURE, AND SO FAR IT HAS PRETTY WELL.

TED: WELL, THE LATEST REPORT, FASTEST EXPANSION SINCE MAY OF 2022.

NOW CONSIDERING WE'RE TALKING COSTS AND PRICES AND OTHER THINGS.

IS THAT KIND OF EXPANSION A GOOD THING?

>> NO, IT IS NOT.

WHAT WE WANT TO BE IS IN A SWEET SPOT.

WE WANT GROWTH, BUT I THINK HIGH 50s LOW 60S IS WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

TRANSPORTATION PRICES THIS TIME WERE UP ALMOST AT 90, 89.4 OR SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAW IN MAY OF 2022.

IF YOU THINK OF MAY OF 2022, THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE UKRAINE WAR, PLUS WE'RE STILL COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, THE EFFECTS OF TURNING THE SUPPLY CHAIN ON WITH THE PANDEMIC, SO, NO, THIS ISN'T GOOD.

TED: TRANSPORTATION PRICES UP, WAREHOUSING PRICES INCREASING, WAREHOUSE UTILIZATION NOT QUITE AS HOT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE MORE SYMPATHETIC, RIGHT?

>> INTERESTING, WE'RE SEEING CAPACITY GO DOWN IN SOME CASES.

WE'VE TAKEN TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY OUT.

THERE'S REAL NERVOUSNESS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE ECONOMY, AND SO WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE PULL BACK.

NOW, ON THE INVENTORY'S GOING UP.

INVENTORIES ARE GOING UP BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN IT SO LEAN, LIKE SO JUST IN TIME, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO -- BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION COSTS MORE, SO YOU TEND TO BRING MORE IN AT A TIME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO SMALLER SHIPMENTS AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE EFFECT OF INVENTORY GOING UP.

TED: YOU MENTIONED THE START OF THE RUSSIAN-UKRAINE WAR.

OIL PRICES PLAYED A FACTOR AS FAR AS THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.

TED: FERTILIZER PRICES.

INDEED, AND SEEING THE SAME THING LARGE HERE, HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL ECONOMY?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE.

IT'S ALWAYS DELAYED BECAUSE STUFF HAPPENS UPSTREAM IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN FIRST, AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO ROLL THROUGH.

I'VE BEEN THINKING, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER A YEAR.

I'VE BEEN THINKING THE IMPACT OF THE TARIFFS WOULD REALLY START TO HIT MOST IN JUNE AND JULY AND NOW WE GOT THIS WAR, WHICH IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT, AND BE A BIGGER FACTOR THAN THE TARIFFS.

TED: AGAIN, THE OIL PRICES, IMPACTING PRICE OF GOODS.

THEY HAVE TO WITH THE DIESEL PRICES AND TRANSPORTATION?

>> IT'S IN EVERYTHING.

IF YOU GO TO THE FOOD STORE, ALL THE PACKAGING HAS SOME IMPACT FROM OIL PRICES, AND EVERYTHING IS INCREASING.

TED: YOU MENTION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS UPSTREAM, IT IS AN EARLY INDICATION, THE CANARY IN THE COALMINE, CAN IT CHANGE ON THE WAY DOWNSTREAM?

>> YES, USUALLY IT GETS AMPLIFIED BECAUSE YOU KEEP ADDING COSTS AS IT ROLLS THROUGH THE SUPPLY CHAIN, SO USUALLY IT'S AMPLIFIED.

THERE'S CASES WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY REALLY TOUGH AT THE END LIKE A WALMART OR AMAZON, AND THEY SAY, NO, YOU'RE NOT PASSING THE COSTS ONTO US, AND SO THERE'S A PUSH AND PULL, BUT IF THINGS ARE LEFT ON THEIR OWN, IT GOES UP.

TED: SPEAKING OF PASSING ON PRICES.

INFLATION.

HOW IS THAT PLAYING INTO ALL THIS AS FAR AS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE CONCERNED?

HOW IS IT PLAYING INTO THE OVERALL ECONOMY?

>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE WERE IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, WE DID HAVE THE CRAZY INFLATION.

THEY PRETTY MUCH SPENT THE WHOLE TERM BRINGING THAT INFLATION DOWN.

WE WERE IN BETWEEN 2 AND 3% WHEN TRUMP TOOK OVER, AND NOW WE'RE HEADED TO ABOVE 4, I THINK.

TED: YEAH, AND THAT MEANS CONSUMER CONFIDENCE, I WOULD IMAGINE?

>> THE LOWEST IT'S EVER BEEN.

TED: REALLY?

>> I WAS ON HERE IN FEBRUARY, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN TEN YEARS, AND NOW IT IS EVEN LOWER JUST RECENTLY.

TED: IS THERE ANY SIGN OF INFLATION EASING IN THE COMING MONTHS, IS THERE ANY SIGN OF CONSUMER CONFIDENCE?

LET'S SAY SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN.

WE GOT A BLOCKADE NOW, DALE, AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>> WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE PRICES WORSE BECAUSE A FAIR AMOUNT OF OIL WAS GETTING OUT OF THE GULF JUST GOING TO CHINA, AND IT'S A GLOBAL OIL MARKET.

WE SAW PRICES, I HAVEN'T LOOKED SINCE PROBABLY 7:00 OR 8:00 THIS MORNING, BUT PRICES WERE ALREADY UP $4, $5 A BARREL THIS MORNING.

IF THAT BLOCKADE IS ACTUAL FLEE PLACE, AND IT'S HARD TO DO A BLOCKADE OVER THERE.

TED: YEAH.

NOT COMPLETELY, BUT YOU GET THE JOB DONE WELL ENOUGH, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> IT'S GOING TO STOP STUFF COMING OUT OF IRAN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

I THINK THERE IS A VARIABLE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MUCH.

A LOT OF THE OIL, THE BEST CUSTOMER IS CHINA, ARE THEY GOING TO SAY IT'S OKAY, STOP OUR OIL.

>> THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN PLANNING ON THAT FOR CHINA AND JAPAN.

>> I THINK THAT'S A HARD DEAL TO MAKE WORK.

TED: SO THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS LOGISTICS MANAGERS INDEX, THE SUPPLY CHAIN METRIC, THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE LATEST INDEX IS WHAT?

>> THAT WE'RE SEEING A HUGE JUMP WHICH IS NOT GOOD, AND IT SHOWS THAT THE PRICING PARTICULARLY, AND TRANSPORTATION PRICES MOVE FASTER THAN ANYTHING, BECAUSE IT CAN CHANGE SEVERAL TIMES A DAY TRUTHFULLY, BUT BOTH FOR MARCH AND THEN FOR MARCH 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, MARCH OF 2027, IT LOOKS LIKE TRANSPORTATION PRICES FOR SURE ARE GOING TO INCREASE VERY QUICKLY OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

TED: LAST -- OKAY, LAST QUESTION HERE, THE VOLATILITY THAT WE SEE IN SO MANY FACTORS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS REGARDING THE ECONOMY, ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

IN THIS CASE, CAN VOLATILITY BE BAKED IN?

>> OVER TIME, A LITTLE BIT, BUT TRUTHFULLY WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS FOR THINGS TO JUST EITHER IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY FLAT.

>> RIGHT.

>> BUT IF YOU WANT THE SHAPE OF THAT CURVE TO BE VERY LINEAR, AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO DO THIS, SO THE ENEMY OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGER AND TRUTHFULLY OF THE ECONOMY, IS VOLATILITY.

TED: WOW.

ASU ECONOMIST DALE ROGERS.

DALE, ALWAYS A PLEASURE, THANK YOU, SIR?

>> NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

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TED: A NONPROFIT CALLED PIPELINE CONNECTS IS A STATEWIDE EFFORT TO ADDRESS WORKFORCE ISSUES IN ARIZONA BY HELPING PEOPLE CONNECT TO CAREERS, EDUCATION AND TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.

JIM ROUNDS IS PRESIDENT OF ROUNDS CONSULTING GROUP, AND AMBER SMITH IS PIPELINE CONNECTS CEO.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE.

AMBER, START WITH YOU, PIPELINE CONNECTS SOUNDS LIKE IT CONNECTS.

>> IT DOES, AND IT'S NOT A GAS PIPELINE.

TED: NO, IT'S NOT.

>> CONTRARY TO SOME BELIEVERS.

WE ARE A STATEWIDE CAREER PATHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE CONNECTING CAREER EXPLORERS BEGINNING IN SIXTH GRADE, POST-SECONDARY, COLLEGE STUDENTS, JOB SEEKERS AND EMPLOYERS ALL TO EACH OTHER AND FINDING THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION PROGRAM ALONG THE WAY RIGHT IN THEIR OWN LOCAL COMMUNITY.

TED: CONNECTING WHAT WAS AND CAN BE A FRAGMENTED EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT KIND OF SYSTEM, CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE'RE SEEING NATIONALLY THAT EQUALS ABOUT $1.1 TRILLION DEFICIT.

TED: WHOA.

>> WHAT I MEAN IS EACH OF THOSE PIECES, CAREER SEEKERS, CAREER EXPLORERS, JOB TRAINERS, EDUCATORS AND EMPLOYERS ALL WORK INDEPENDENTLY OF EACH OTHER AND ARE SILOED, SO AT EVERY CRITICAL POINT SUCH AS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION OR ENROLLING INTO WHATEVER POST-SECONDARY, THOSE CONNECTIONS DO NOT HAPPEN COSTING COLLECTIVELY, NATIONALLY 1.1 TRILLION.

TED: JIM, HOW DID THEY GET FRACTURED, THE SILO BUSINESS, SHOULD BE INTERTWINED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?

>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.

THE ONLY REASON I BECAME A POLICY ECONOMIST IS BECAUSE I HAD A GREAT PROFESSOR AT ASU SAY GO APPLY TO THE BUDGET LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, YOU'LL GET OUT OF A TEST.

I DID IT AND IT WORKED OUT.

THAT WAS LUCK.

WE NEED IT TO BE MORE STRUCTURED SO YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS, DO THEY WANT TO TAKE MORE MATH, OTHER SCIENCES?

THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE SO IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

THEY'RE NOT BORROWING MONEY TO CHASE A CAREER THEY DON'T LIKE LATER.

IT'S TRYING TO MAKE THE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUCH BIG WORKFORCE SHORTAGES DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE MORE EFFICIENCY WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

TED: CAN YOU CREATE EFFICIENCY, AMBER -- CAN YOU MAKE THE SILOS GET ALONG?

>> YES.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, WHICH IS WHY WE EXIST BECAUSE TO JIM'S POINT, STUDENTS ARE MAKING DECISION TO ANOTHER OPT-IN OR OPT OUT OF A CAREER SOMETIMES FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IF THEY UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THE PROGRAMS IN THE COMMUNITY AND, OF COURSE, THE UNIVERSITIES AND THOSE PROGRAMS THAT MATCH WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN CONNECT ALL OF THOSE PIECES.

>> SO I'M A 6th THROUGH 12th GRADER HERE, I THINK I KNOW WHAT I WANT, BUT I'M NOT SURE, HOW DOES PIPELINE CONNECTS HELP ME?

>> I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL WHEN I STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WANT.

THE 6th GRADER THE INFORMATION IS BETTER FOR THE PARENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE INFLUENCE WHERE A KID WANTS TO GO.

AS THEY GET INTO JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL, THEY HAVE A BETTER IDEA, YOU HAVE TO SELECT THE RIGHT CLASSES TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE EFFICIENT WITH IT.

GROUPS LIKE PIPELINE, I HAVE BEEN WITH IT FOR A WHILE, I COULDN'T GIVE THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE NEEDED PIECES TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP.

IF WE CAN SHORTEN THE TIME IT TAKES PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE WORKFORCE, WE CAN KEEP OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC MOMENTUM GOING IN THE STATE.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE IMPACT OF GDP, STATE AND NATIONAL.

ARIZONA IS NOT ALONE HERE?

>> ARIZONA IS NOT ALONE.

HOWEVER, AS MR.

ROUNDS CAN ATTEST, WE HAVE $180 MILLION POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT DUE TO THE CREATIVITY WE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM, AND THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER, WOULD YOU SAY?

>> YEAH.

SO USUALLY WHEN WE DO ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSES, THEY'LL COME IN MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THE NUMBER IS.

THIS ONE CAME IN PRETTY LARGE AND HAD TO DOUBLE CHECK THE DATA AND MISSED IT BY A DECENT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB TO GET THE GROUPS TOGETHER TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT.

IF WE HAD THE K-12 SYSTEM WORKING WITH PIPELINE, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT LIST BECAUSE SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS WE'RE COMING OUT WITH, WITH BORDER REGIONS WE'RE WORKING ON, WITHIN THE REGIONS, IT IS GOING TO BE SHOWING THAT THE STATE'S GOING TO BE LOSING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT DECADE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC MOMENTUM IF WE CAN'T KEEP THE WORKFORCE SUPPLY MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT BRINGING IN NEW WORKERS FROM THE OUTSIDE, WE HAVE TO BE EFFICIENT FROM THE INSIDE.

IF WE DO IT, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S A RISK OF LOSING THE MONEY OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT EXTRA REVENUE.

TED: AND AMBER, 90% GROWTH SINCE THE NONPROFIT STARTED IN 2022 IS WHAT I FOUND OUT HERE, THAT SOUNDS FANTASTIC, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THERE WAS A GLARING NEED FOR THIS, THAT PROBABLY STILL EXISTS.

IS 90% GROWTH GOOD?

>> THE IDEAL SYSTEM CONNECTS EVERY 6th THROUGH 12th STUDENT THROUGH EVERY CAREER PATHWAY OFFERED IN ARIZONA TO EVERY HIRING EMPLOYER.

SO THAT NUMBER FAR EXCEEDS.

WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE GROWTH BUT THAT'S WHAT PERFECTION LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT EMPLOYERS NEED, WHAT OCCUPATIONS DO THEY NEED STUDENTS TO BE INTERESTED IN GOING INTO, AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE THOSE STUDENTS AND BETTER EDUCATE THEM ON THOSE AVAILABLE PATHWAYS RIGHT HERE IN OUR STATE, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL PIECES WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.

>> THE STATE'S BEEN DOING WELL AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN PERFECTING THIS AREA.

IF WE'RE A CAR GOING DOWN THE ROAD ON THE FREEWAY, WE'RE GOING FAST, AND WE LOOK DOWN AND OUR PARKING BRAKE IS PULLED UP.

WHAT IF WE LET THAT THING DOWN, WE'RE FINE-TUNING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SPEEDING THINGS UP.

SO IT'S -- SHOULD THIS HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF?

YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MANY THINGS AT ONCE, WE'RE WORKING ON WORKFORCE AND OTHER FUNDAMENTALS WHICH IS WHAT I LIKE.

TED: LAST QUESTION, AMBER, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE FROM PUBLIC OFFICIALS, FROM LEADERS, REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE ECONOMY AND GROWTH?

>> LEAD WITH THE DATA.

WE CAN START COLLECTING STUDENT CAREER INTERESTS AS EARLY AS 6th GRADE.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION AND CAN START TO INFORM THEM BETTER AND OPERATE OFF OF ONE PIECE OF DATA THAT INFLUENCES ALL OF THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS.

>> AND THE SILOS ARE GETTING ALONG?

>> THEY'RE CONNECTING.

TED: THEY'RE CONNECTING.

>> THERE IS NOTHING POLITICAL ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHICH IS MAGIC.

TED: AMBER SMITH, JIM ROUNDS, GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE, ENCOURAGING REPORT, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

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TED: ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF U.S.

HOUSEHOLDS HAVE A PET, BUT WHAT MAKES A GOOD PET AND WHAT ANIMALS ARE NOT THE BEST SUITED FOR RUNNING AROUND THE HOUSE OR THE BACKYARD.

SOME AREN'T MEANT FOR THAT AT ALL AND CAN ENDANGER HUMAN LIVES.

WE WELCOME IN JOAQUIN HIDALGO AND HIS FRIEND LINGUINI.

>> I BROUGHT THE MOST DANGEROUS THING, YOU ARE IN DANGER OF BEING HURT BY THE CUTENESS.

>> A FERRET.

>> A DOMESTIC FERRET.

HE IS LEGAL TO NONE ARIZONA BUT ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA OR HAWAII.

TED: WHY?

>> YOU SEE THIS CUTE LITTLE FACE?

IT IS CUTE AND HARMLESS TO PEOPLE.

TO LIVESTOCK THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE MENACES TO CHICKENS OR OTHER NATIVE SPECIES, SO THEY HAVE PROTECTIONS JUST IN CASE ONE OF THE GUYS WERE TO GET LOOSE.

TED: FERRETS KEPT INDOORS MAKE A GOOD PET?

>> THEY'RE A BIG RESPONSIBILITY.

FOR ONE, THEY'RE PUNGENT, THEY ARE SMELLY LITTLE THINGS, IF YOU WANT A GOOD SMELLING HOUSE, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND A FERRET.

THEY ARE VERY, VERY PLAYFUL, YOU CAN'T PLOP THEM INTO A CAGE AND BE DONE WITH IT.

THEY REQUIRE A LOT OF ENRICHMENT AND TOYS, THEY NEED THE ATTENTION OF A LOVING OWNER.

TED: SO WHAT MAKES A GOOD PET BESIDE NOT STINKING UP THE HOUSE?

>> DEPENDS WHO YOU ASK.

A LOT OF FOLKS LOVE BIG SNAKES, LOVE DOGS AND CATS.

TO SOMEONE A BIG SNAKE MAY NOT BE A GREAT PET BUT THEY ARE LOW MAINTENANCE.

FOR OTHERS A DOG IS SEEN AS A GOOD PET.

IT COMES DOWN TO THE BIG FACTORS, ONE, IS IT LEGAL AND ETHICAL TO OWN.

AND, TWO, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT INTO THE ANIMAL, RIGHT?

IF YOU HAVE A DOG, I CAN LEAVE HIM AT HOME, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A DOG, DOGS REQUIRE A LOT OF ATTENTION.

IN MY HEAD, IT'S WHATEVER THE OWNERS AND INDIVIDUALS COULD HANDLE.

TED: AN ANIMAL THAT IS AFFECTIONATE, THAT IS SOCIAL AND TRAINABLE, OPTIMUM?

>> POTTY TRAINING IS A BIG DEAL, YOU DON'T WANT THE PET POOPING IN THE HOUSE, FOR OTHER FOLKS MAYBE THEY DON'T THE AFFECTION OF LIVING OR LICKING THEM.

ADMIRING A TORTOISE IS GOOD FOR YOU, TOO.

>> IT REALLY IS INDIVIDUAL.

>> UH-HUH.

TED: DOGS, OBVIOUSLY.

CATS.

GUINEA PIGS.

RABBITS.

>> RABBITS ARE FUNNY, A LOT OF FOLKS ADOPT THEM DURING EASTER, RIGHT?

WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS THEY ARE A BIG RESPONSIBILITY.

FOLKS ABANDON THE RABBITS AND SEE THEM AT SHELTERS OR AT THE ZOO, PEOPLE REALIZE THEY'RE A LOT MORE WORK AND MAY NOT BE CUDDLY AND SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN.

TED: INTERESTING.

BEFORE YOU GET THE PET, YOU NEED TO KNOW THE SOCIABLITY, HOW BIG THEY GET?

>> PEOPLE THAT BUY SNAKES, LITTLE KNOW THEY GET UP TO 16 FEET LONG, AND FLORIDA, THEY NO LONGER LIVE IN THE HOME, AND THEY'RE IN THE WILD BEING INVASIVE SPECIES.

TED: AS LONG AS PETS THAT AREN'T GOOD PETS -- I DON'T MEAN HIPPOS OR THINGS, WHAT REALLY SHOULD STOP WITH THAT?

>> HERE'S THE BIGGEST ONE FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY NOT BIG CATS.

IT'S ILLEGAL TO OWN NOW THANKS TO ACTS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED, BUT MONKEYS PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH.

THEY ARE CUTE AND CHARISMATIC.

PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE OFTENTIMES CAN BE STINKY, THEY SCENT EVERYTHING WITH URINE, BUT ETHICALLY, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, EVERY TIME YOU FIND THESE PEOPLE, THE ANIMALS HAVE BEEN POACHED AND TAKEN AWAY FROM THE WILD, AND JUST TO BE TRANSPORTED TO THE STATES, IT WAS IN ROUGH CONDITIONS AND OFTENTIMES THE ANIMALS DO NOT SURVIVE.

I TELL FOLKS, I KNOW MONKEYS ARE CUTE, THEY ARE NOT GOOD PETS.

TED: PEOPLE LOOK AT MONKEYS THAT ARE CUTE, THEY ARE THE YOUNG MONKEYS.

THE OLDER ONES CAN BE ONERY, RIGHT?

>> CHIMPS ARE ENTIRELY HANDS OFF.

YOU SEE CELEBRITIES THAT HAVE A CUTE BABY CHIMP WITH THEM.

IT WILL BE VERY, VERY STRONG, HAS A COMPLEX RANGE OF SOCIAL NEEDS THAT CAN'T BE MET IN A HOME SETTING LIKE THAT.

TED: WHICH ANIMALS THAT ARE CONSIDERED PETS BY MOST MAINTAIN WILD INSTINCTS, YOU TRAIN THEM AND YOU TRAIN THEM AND THEY STILL GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WILD IN THEM.

>> CATS.

CATS WILL ALWAYS BE A CAT.

CATS ALLOW US TO BE WITH THEM, BUT STILL VERY MUCH A WILD ANIMAL, LOT OF PEOPLE LET CATS GO OUTSIDE AND THEY CREATE QUITE A PROBLEM FOR WILD BIRDS OUT THERE.

TED: FOR BIRDS, YEAH, YEAH.

AGAIN, WILD DOGS, NO.

FERAL CATS, NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK WELL AS PETS.

>> THEY'RE HARDER TO REHAB.

ONCE YOU SEE THE DOGS AND CATS OUT THERE.

A CAT WILL ALWAYS KEEP WILD INSTINCTS.

>> REPTILES.

>> FANTASTIC SO LONG AS YOU'RE DOING RESEARCH.

THEY ARE A LOT MORE SOCIAL THAN PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE, LIKE BEARDED DRAGONS OR IGUANAS AND EVEN SNAKES.

TED: AND WHAT, THE BIG SNAKE WANTS TO CUDDLE?

>> THEY WANT BODY HEAT, BUT YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE ANIMAL FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH YOU, THAT GOES A LONG WAY.

TED: BIRDS?

>> BIRDS IS A BIG ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

PARROTS, BEAUTIFUL, THEY CAN LIVE UP TO 80 YEARS LONG, A LOT OF FOLKS PUT THEM INTO WILL AND FALL INTO THE EXOTIC PET TRADE, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL FIGURING OUT WHERE THEY COME FROM.

TED: LAST QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO.

PHOENIX ZOO, YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS, TALKING WITH US.

WHY IS THE PHOENIX ZOO MAKING THIS MESSAGE SO IMPORTANT?

>> A LOT OF THE ANIMALS WE INHERITED HAVE BEEN EXOTIC PETS.

A BIRD TRAVELLED WITH A MAGICIAN, BUT IT'S BEST NOT HAVING THE ANIMALS IN THE FIRST PLACE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE SURRENDERED.

DO YOUR RESEARCH, THERE'S A LOT OF CUTE ANIMALS BUT DO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

TED: LINGUINI IS CUTE, I CAN'T SMELL HIM.

DON'T LET HIM TALK TO YOU THAT WAY.

JOAQUIN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

TED: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.